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Quotes on Discipline,
Posted By: mrbob1 On: 01 May 2015 23:32:35

"Disciplines do not earn anything. They are not righteousness, they are wisdom. They help us to live righteously and in God's power and under His direction and means of Grace. They enable us to receive grace and to empower our lives with the presence of God in such a way that we can live to the Glory of God." DA Willard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBh8Kz9uqG8

"Disciplines of engagement use the time and energy you would have used for something else (anything you sense you should do less of in order to live a more disciplined life) to spend time with God in prayer, study, or worship (anything that engages you with God). There is nothing wrong with celebration, eating, spending time with friends and family or what have you, (in fact we should incorporate celebration and fun into our spiritual lives) but as a disciple of the Master you must examine your own life to determine what you should do less of (apply a discipline of fasting or abstinence). Practically speaking you will have more time to engage with God. "redeeming the time because the days are evil" " RD Ball

"Jesus is the human face on the kingdom of God. He makes it concretely accessible."

"God may not guide us in an obvious way because he wants us to make decisions based on faith and character."

"Discipleship is the process of becoming who Jesus would be if he were you."

"Solitude well practiced will break the power of busyness, haste, isolation, & loneliness."

"The more we pray, the more we think to pray, and as we see the results of prayer-the responses of our Father to our requests-our confidence in God's power spills over into other areas of our life."

"Jesus is actually looking for people he can trust with his power."

"The acid test for any theology is this: Is the God presented one that can be loved, heart, soul, mind, and strength? ... If it fails to set a lovable God--a radiant, happy, friendly, accessible, and totally competent being--before ordinary people, we have gone wrong"
 

"The assumption of Jesus' program for his people on earth was that they would live their lives as his students and co-laborers."

"The will is transformed by experience, not information."

"Jesus, Willard says, “does not call us to do what he did, but to be as he was, permeated with love. Then the doing of what he did and said becomes the natural expression of who we are in him."

"Grace is not opposed to effort, it is opposed to earning. Earning is an attitude. Effort is an action. Grace, you know, does not just have to do with forgiveness of sins alone."

"Jesus came among us to show and teach the life for which we were made. He came very gently, opened access to the governance of God with him, and set afoot a conspiracy of freedom in truth among human beings. Having overcome death he remains among us. By relying on his word and presence we are enabled to reintegrate the little realm that makes up our life in the infinite rule of God. And that is the eternal kind of life. Caught up in his active rule, our deeds become an element in God’s eternal history. They are what God and we do together, making us part of his life and him a part of ours."

"There is absolutely nothing in what Jesus himself or his early followers taught that suggests you can decide just to enjoy forgiveness at Jesus' expense and have nothing more to do with him."

"A disciple is a person who has decided that the most important thing in their life is to learn how to do what Jesus said to do."

"It is the responsibility of every Christ-centred follower to carve out a satisfying life under the loving rule of God or else sin will start to look good"

http://www.azquotes.com/quote/1070402 - grabbing DW quotes

 

 

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Posted By: mrbob1 On: 29 Apr 2015 22:21:52

“Individually the disciple and friend of Jesus who has learned to work shoulder to shoulder with his or her Lord stands in this world as a point of contact between heaven and earth, a kind of Jacob’s ladder by which the angels of God may ascend from and descend into human life. Thus the disciple stands as an envoy or a receiver by which the kingdom of God is conveyed into every quarter of human affairs.”
Dallas Willard, Hearing God: Developing a Conversational Relationship with God

Holiness is a matter of being from a different world and drawing from something that is not of this world.

Fasting is actually an affirmation of the world of God.

character formed in Christ loves what is good and is devoted to following that, and carrying through with what is good.

John 14: 22 Then Judas (not Judas Iscariot) said, “But, Lord, why do you intend to show yourself to us and not to the world?” 23 Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. 24 Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.

This is the picture of living a life of holiness.

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rej2axwlqb8&list=PLMmPu-KsmHTO6squg2WHICDC2xxWhvq1H

 

Spirit of the Disciplines quotes
Posted By: mrbob1 On: 25 Apr 2015 09:00:39

We certainly think it would be wonderful if we and all others would try to make a difference, to do what we should and we often say so. But we do not want to bother with becoming the sort of people who actually naturally do that. 

"contemporary American churches in particular do not require following Christ in His example, spirit and teachings as a condition of membership either of entering into or continuing in fellowship of a denomination or local church. Any exception to this claim only serves to highlight its general validity and make the general rule more glaring." - Professor Dallas Willard (USCal Philosophy) From The Spirit of the Disciplines

Holiness is fundamentally “otherness” or separateness from the ordinary realm of human existence in which we believe we know what we are doing and what is going on. It is the idea of something else in current terminology.

The kingdom of evil rests on lies and why Satan is called a liar and the father of lies. (John 8:44) The kingdom of evil is structurally very weak for all its fearsome appearance. Pull one string and the whole unravels. 


Posted By: mrbob1 On: 12 Apr 2015 09:21:29
More Dallas Willard Quotes
Posted By: mrbob1 On: 08 Apr 2015 23:00:45

"If we have stepped into the Kingdom of God and retrained ourselves and others to be able to come to the place to where we can sweetly stand in the good things of Christ as He taught us then we don’t need anger, we don’t need contempt, we don’t need to cultivate lusting, we don’t need to pay back. We don’t need to steam roller people with our words, we don’t need to impress them with our religiosity. We don’t need to secure ourselves with money or reputation, we can simply seek the kingdom of God and His righteousness and see how God adds everything else to that."

“We must understand that God does not "love" us without liking us - through gritted teeth - as "Christian" love is sometimes thought to do. Rather, out of the eternal freshness of his perpetually self-renewed being, the heavenly Father cherishes the earth and each human being upon it. The fondness, the endearment, the unstintingly affectionate regard of God toward all his creatures is the natural outflow of what he is to the core - which we vainly try to capture with our tired but indispensable old word "love".”

The greatest temptation to evil that humanity ever suffers is the temptation to make a Jerusalem happen by human means.  Human means are absolutely indispensible in the world as it is. That is God’s intention. We are supposed to act and our actions are to count but there is a limit to what human arrangements can accomplish. They alone cannot change the heart and spirit of the human being. Because of this the instrumentalities invoked to make *Jerusalem happen always wind up eliminating truth or mercy or both.  World history as well as small scale decision making demonstrates this.  It is seen in the ravages of dictatorial power on the one hand and on the other in the death by minutiae that a bureaucracy tends to impose.  It is well known how hard it is to provide a benign order within human means. For the problem once again is in the human heart. Until it fully engages with the rule of God the good that we feel must be cannot come. It will at a certain point be defeated by the very means implemented to produce it.

*Jerusalem in the scripture is a picture of heaven on earth it literally means ‘the peace of God’.

AP Your teaching on the kingdom highlights some of the differences between the charismatic and evangelicals. Charismatics emphasise manifestation, evangelicals Bible teaching. Are you saying they are both wrong?

DW Exactly. If you ask ‘how is it wrong?’ I would say that neither manifestation, nor teaching transforms character. Charismatics flail at the dead horse of experience, evangelicals at teaching, but neither leads to transformation spiritually. The only thing that transforms us spiritually is the action of following Christ. You seek to follow, you fail and you learn. But in order to engage in following, you have to have a clear understanding of life in the kingdom of God; that you are accepted by the grace of God in Jesus and that lays the foundation for as much true doctrine as you can manage and as much manifestation of the Spirit as you can stand.

Quotes on the Kingdom
Posted By: mrbob1 On: 06 Apr 2015 19:11:48

Dallas Willard - "relationships form the receptacle for receiving the fullness of Christ and are the place where the kingdom comes and God’s will is to be done as it is "in the heavens."

“The sinner is not the one who uses a lot of grace. The saint uses more grace. The saint uses grace like a 747 on takeoff because everything they do is a manifestation of grace. We are not running out of grace”

"When you look at the Bible you see that the kingdom of God is God acting. It is the range of God ’s effective will. When I pray ‘thy kingdom come, thy will be done’ I am praying first that God’s will may be done in my own life and then around me. "


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